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Ep 130: "Free speech is not enough" — UATX President Carlos Carvalho on Charlie Kirk, Fighting Communists & the Duty of a University
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Ep 130: "Free speech is not enough" — UATX President Carlos Carvalho on Charlie Kirk, Fighting Communists & the Duty of a University

Universities called for “free speech” after Charlie Kirk’s murder — UATX President Carlos Carvalho says they’re missing the point entirely. Is more speech really the answer? Should universities stay neutral and out of politics? Or do they have a higher duty, especially now?

We discuss these questions and more with the new President of the University of Austin: Carlos Carvalho. Born and raised in Brazil, he watched his father — a Navy officer — help fight back against a communist takeover attempt in the 1960s. Carlos came to America and earned his Ph.D. in statistics from Duke University. He taught at the University of Chicago before spending 15 years as a professor at the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas, where he also founded the Salem Center for Policy to promote open debate and inquiry on campus. Carlos is an academic, a builder, and believes deeply in the promise of America; he’s uniquely talented and suited to lead the most ambitious new university project in more than a century.

We begin our conversation with the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s murder, and the debate over the role of universities. Learn why Carlos believes “free speech is not enough” and why academia has a duty to stand on, and defend, America’s founding principles, while drawing an important distinction between politics and partisanship. Next, we discuss his upbringing and lessons from fighting the communists in Brazil, including his father’s sage advice: “Learn math, learn languages, and always watch out for the communists!” Finally, we hone in on what sets UATX apart and what it looks like to train a new elite equipped with the best of the old world and the new, plus the courage and entrepreneurial energy needed to save our civilization.

00:00 Episode intro

01:50 “Free speech isn’t enough”

06:42 Is “Institutional neutrality” the right approach?

13:50 Fighting the communists in Brazil

21:06 How the far-left captured business schools

26:45 What sets UATX apart?

32:33 Old world meets new; bringing entrepreneurship to higher ed

40:05 Why is UATX tuition free?

44:00 Navy SEAL formula for higher ed

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