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Ep 104: Will AI Replace Coders? Terminal Co-Founder & CEO Dylan Serota
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Ep 104: Will AI Replace Coders? Terminal Co-Founder & CEO Dylan Serota

How is AI augmenting software developers? Will it replace or commoditize certain roles? And how should aspiring engineers prepare for the future?

This week, we're joined by Dylan Serota, co-founder and CEO of Terminal, to discuss AI's impact on one of the most important aspects of company building: talent. After graduating from the University of Pennsylvania, Dylan headed to Silicon Valley, where he helped build and scale global teams for Eventbrite. After seeing the flaws in traditional outsourcing firms, he set out to build Terminal — a new model for a global talent platform. Behind the scenes, Terminal is enabling some of the fastest-growing tech companies, like Hims&Hers, Chime, and NextDoor, to hire and manage teams around the world.

We start our conversation with global hiring trends and how AI is transforming the competition for talent. Specifically, we discuss how new AI tools are augmenting coding and impacting demand for high-skill versus entry-level developers. We also tackle the challenges in building global teams and why some companies are reverting to face-to-face interviews and tests. Next, we explore the misaligned incentives in traditional outsourcing models and how Terminal differentiates itself. Finally, Dylan offers his advice to young engineers on how they should prepare for the AI age.

00:00 Episode Intro

02:00 The state of global talent

05:00 Why is Nike hiring thousands of engineers?

9:00 Will AI replace coders?

13:30 AI screening vs in-person interviews

18:00 Why is traditional outsourcing broken?

22:20 How Terminal helps startups scale

26:00 Advice for young engineers

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